Thursday, November 17, 2005

A very scary Virginia terrorism case

I had vaguely rememberd hearing about this case a while ago. A US citizen of Jordanian descent was in Saudi Arabia at a religious school, was arrested by Saudi authorities accused of terrorism, held there for 2 years where he confessed to joining al Qaeda and plotting terrorist acts (including to kill President Bush), before being turned over to US authorities, extradited and tried here for terrorism.

Sounds like a straight forward terrorism prosecution, right?

Oh, yeah, and he claims that he was tortured into giving a confession there.

Huh, tortured in Saudi Arabia? Our close allies there would never do that, would they? Come now, torture people, in Saudi Arabia? Isn't that a humane place where a primacy is placed on human rights, where punishment is only meted out grudgingly and after maximum consideration? Uh, no, that would not be Saudi Arabia.

So, how on earth is our government prosecuting someone for a confession, apparently made without any corroborative evidence of his membership or actions, made in a Saudi prison? Am I missing something here? One of the world's more repressive governments gets a confession from someone while they're imprisoned for 2 years? Isn't that presumptively tortured? Can't we assume for the sake of an argument that just about any statement that comes from a person held in a Saudi jail is elicited through torture, that the Saudi government could probably get Michael Jordan to deny ever playing basketball, to get Martha Stewart to sing the virtues of using your fingers at a fancy meal, to get George Bush to admit making an error? Our government is now prosecuting people in our courts using only testimony extracted from Saudi police?

Am I missing something here? I hope. Tell me that there is more to this than a Saudi confession. Yes, I know US doctors examined him and say that the 4-10 lines down his back (4 if your a government doctor, 10 if you're his doctor) are consistent with not only torture, but just as likely of being scratched on the back with someone's nails, or something benign like that. But, haven't these repressive governments become good at torturing people with things like electric shocks to the genitals, so that they don't leave marks? Alright, I realize that FBI doctors were permitted to visit him, and they thought he was not being tortured, but he was there for 2 years. Did they visit him daily, weekly, 2 times the whole time he was there? And didn't the Nazis manage to clean up a couple of the ghettos before walking the Red Cross through them just enough for the Red Cross to say that they were not terrible places to be?

Give me a break, I really hope that there is more to this case than has been reported. If not, the jury had better come back not guilty (although, understand that they brought this case in Alexandria, Virginia for a reason, they're far more likely to get a conviction there). And regardless, what does this say about our fight for freedom around the world that we're stooping to this level to prosecute people? This is the freedom we're fighting for? Bring me back some of the old tyranny of the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's.

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Anonymous said...

Hi PD dude,
I really like your column. It's too bad you have to keep your identity quiet. I think you have something important to say.

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Anonymous said...

On December 11, 2006 For the first time U.S. Government Backed Israel publicly admitted its possession of nuclear weapons. Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert confessed that his country possessed of nuclear weapons.

In an interview with the German N24 SAT 1 TV channel, Israel Zionist Terrorist Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert questioned whether it was possible to compare Iran’s attempt to have nuclear weapons with the possession of nuclear powers by the United States, France, Israel and Russia.

U.S. Backed Israeli Zionist Terrorist Infrastructure Minister Binyamin Ben Eliezer, in reference to Ehud Olmert's nuclear confession, said: “I recommend those who want to talk about this issue remain silent for God and the national security’s sake.”

Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed was arrested on September 11, 1998.

United States Government says the arrest of Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed was made on September 10, 1998. USHOSTAGE.com says United States Government lies.

On December 14, 1998 during a Marsden Motion Hearing in a Judge's chamber, just a month after I refused to be a FBI informant, United States Government Employees in Santa Clara County, California falsified evidence of PageMart Inc. phone records in a criminal case that contained a active Usama Bin Laden's Top Lieutenant, a active CIA Informant, and a active FBI Informant all at the same time, Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed's phone number. - Case No.C9729972

Attacks on September 11, 2001 happened on September 11 (9/11) for hijacking trainer, Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed. He knew details that only the trainer would know.

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY OFFICE

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY SHERIFF

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS

SANTA CLARA COUNTY SHERIFF OFFICE - SHERIFF OF SANTA CLARA CALIFORNIA

U.S. Government informant Ali Mohamed’s trail of terror includes:

(A) Scouting terrorist targets in East Africa for Bin Laden, including the US embassy in Nairobi, Kenya which was struck by an al-Qaeda truck bomb in 1998.

(B) Training Terrorist cell member to executed the first attack on the World Trade Centre in 1993.

(C) Helping to establish some of the first al-Qaeda terror cells in the United States, including on the West Coast.

(D) Training al-Qaeda operatives on how to hijack passenger planes, including how to smuggle weapons through airport security.

(E) Compiling a 180-page al-Qaeda terrorist training manual.

(F) Training 9/11 hijackers.

On December 14, 1998 with the full knowledge of Mary J. Greenwood a Santa Clara County California Deputy Public Defender Supervisor then, and now the Santa Clara County California Public Defender in a Santa Clara County California Court inside a Judge's chamber during a Marsden Motion Hearing, Deputy Santa Clara County Public Defender's Kipp Davis and Susannah Shamos falsified evidence of a PageMart Inc. phone records to Honorable Judge Thomas William Cain.

PageMart Inc. phone records show from what phone line, date and time was a call made to my phone number. The PageMart Inc. records show that Usama Bin Laden's top lieutenant Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed was contacting my phone number from his phone line. My phone number back then with PageMart Inc. was a toll free 800 number. Any call made to any toll free 800 number including mine has a record of what phone line number, date and time the call was made to my phone number. Most people if not all assume that there is no way to trace your call if you call a toll free 800 number, and thats exactly what these terrorists thought and assumed.

Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed's phone number, Muslim Community Association of the San Francisco Bay Area phone number's, Granada Islamic School phone number's, Complaining witness phone number's (Work and Residential), residential numbers of Board and or Staff Members of the Muslim Community Association of the San Francisco Bay Area and Granada Islamic School all show up on the PageMart Inc. Records during, before and after of the terrorists, FBI Informants, and CIA Informants conspired allegations [C9729972] against me a whistle blower.

In 1997 I went to the FBI in San Jose, California and told the FBI on record with cameras around me that Mujahedin-e-Khalq and Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan terrorist agents are recruiting and raising money inside the Muslim Community Association of the San Francisco Bay Area, Granada Islamic School, and Masjid An-Noor. Little did I know at that time that the terrorist recruiters were FBI and CIA informants as well.

SANTA CLARA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS

SANTA CLARA COUNTY SHERIFF

SANTA CLARA COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY

SANTA CLARA COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDER

SANTA CLARA COUNTY FIRE
INTENTIONAL INJUSTICE

11/24/2006 4:33 PM


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Santa Clara County Public Defender's Office

Santa Clara County District Attorney's Office

Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office

Santa Clara County Board of Supervisor's

Santa Clara Police Department

Santa Clara Fire Department

Santa Clara County Council

Santa Clara County FBI Office

Mary gave George Kennedy a 911" Greenwood.

Will Mary Greenwood and/or George Kennedy ever tell their grandchildren that grandma and grandpa have 9/11 blood on their hands?

12/06/2006 5:01 PM


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Anonymous said...

On December 11, 2006 For the first time U.S. Government Backed Israel publicly admitted its possession of nuclear weapons. Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert confessed that his country possessed of nuclear weapons.

In an interview with the German N24 SAT 1 TV channel, Israel Zionist Terrorist Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert questioned whether it was possible to compare Iran’s attempt to have nuclear weapons with the possession of nuclear powers by the United States, France, Israel and Russia.

U.S. Backed Israeli Zionist Terrorist Infrastructure Minister Binyamin Ben Eliezer, in reference to Ehud Olmert's nuclear confession, said: “I recommend those who want to talk about this issue remain silent for God and the national security’s sake.”

Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed was arrested on September 11, 1998.

United States Government says the arrest of Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed was made on September 10, 1998. USHOSTAGE.com says United States Government lies.

On December 14, 1998 during a Marsden Motion Hearing in a Judge's chamber, just a month after I refused to be a FBI informant, United States Government Employees in Santa Clara County, California falsified evidence of PageMart Inc. phone records in a criminal case that contained a active Usama Bin Laden's Top Lieutenant, a active CIA Informant, and a active FBI Informant all at the same time, Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed's phone number. - Case No.C9729972

Attacks on September 11, 2001 happened on September 11 (9/11) for hijacking trainer, Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed. He knew details that only the trainer would know.

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY OFFICE

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY SHERIFF

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS

SANTA CLARA COUNTY SHERIFF OFFICE - SHERIFF OF SANTA CLARA CALIFORNIA

U.S. Government informant Ali Mohamed’s trail of terror includes:

(A) Scouting terrorist targets in East Africa for Bin Laden, including the US embassy in Nairobi, Kenya which was struck by an al-Qaeda truck bomb in 1998.

(B) Training Terrorist cell member to executed the first attack on the World Trade Centre in 1993.

(C) Helping to establish some of the first al-Qaeda terror cells in the United States, including on the West Coast.

(D) Training al-Qaeda operatives on how to hijack passenger planes, including how to smuggle weapons through airport security.

(E) Compiling a 180-page al-Qaeda terrorist training manual.

(F) Training 9/11 hijackers.

On December 14, 1998 with the full knowledge of Mary J. Greenwood a Santa Clara County California Deputy Public Defender Supervisor then, and now the Santa Clara County California Public Defender in a Santa Clara County California Court inside a Judge's chamber during a Marsden Motion Hearing, Deputy Santa Clara County Public Defender's Kipp Davis and Susannah Shamos falsified evidence of a PageMart Inc. phone records to Honorable Judge Thomas William Cain.

PageMart Inc. phone records show from what phone line, date and time was a call made to my phone number. The PageMart Inc. records show that Usama Bin Laden's top lieutenant Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed was contacting my phone number from his phone line. My phone number back then with PageMart Inc. was a toll free 800 number. Any call made to any toll free 800 number including mine has a record of what phone line number, date and time the call was made to my phone number. Most people if not all assume that there is no way to trace your call if you call a toll free 800 number, and thats exactly what these terrorists thought and assumed.

Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed's phone number, Muslim Community Association of the San Francisco Bay Area phone number's, Granada Islamic School phone number's, Complaining witness phone number's (Work and Residential), residential numbers of Board and or Staff Members of the Muslim Community Association of the San Francisco Bay Area and Granada Islamic School all show up on the PageMart Inc. Records during, before and after of the terrorists, FBI Informants, and CIA Informants conspired allegations [C9729972] against me a whistle blower.

In 1997 I went to the FBI in San Jose, California and told the FBI on record with cameras around me that Mujahedin-e-Khalq and Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan terrorist agents are recruiting and raising money inside the Muslim Community Association of the San Francisco Bay Area, Granada Islamic School, and Masjid An-Noor. Little did I know at that time that the terrorist recruiters were FBI and CIA informants as well.

SANTA CLARA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS

SANTA CLARA COUNTY SHERIFF

SANTA CLARA COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY

SANTA CLARA COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDER

SANTA CLARA COUNTY FIRE
INTENTIONAL INJUSTICE

11/24/2006 4:33 PM


Anonymous said...
Santa Clara County Public Defender's Office

Santa Clara County District Attorney's Office

Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office

Santa Clara County Board of Supervisor's

Santa Clara Police Department

Santa Clara Fire Department

Santa Clara County Council

Santa Clara County FBI Office

Mary gave George Kennedy a 911" Greenwood.

Will Mary Greenwood and/or George Kennedy ever tell their grandchildren that grandma and grandpa have 9/11 blood on their hands?

12/06/2006 5:01 PM


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Anonymous said...

On December 11, 2006 For the first time U.S. Government Backed Israel publicly admitted its possession of nuclear weapons. Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert confessed that his country possessed of nuclear weapons.

In an interview with the German N24 SAT 1 TV channel, Israel Zionist Terrorist Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert questioned whether it was possible to compare Iran’s attempt to have nuclear weapons with the possession of nuclear powers by the United States, France, Israel and Russia.

U.S. Backed Israeli Zionist Terrorist Infrastructure Minister Binyamin Ben Eliezer, in reference to Ehud Olmert's nuclear confession, said: “I recommend those who want to talk about this issue remain silent for God and the national security’s sake.”

Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed was arrested on September 11, 1998.

United States Government says the arrest of Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed was made on September 10, 1998. USHOSTAGE.com says United States Government lies.

On December 14, 1998 during a Marsden Motion Hearing in a Judge's chamber, just a month after I refused to be a FBI informant, United States Government Employees in Santa Clara County, California falsified evidence of PageMart Inc. phone records in a criminal case that contained a active Usama Bin Laden's Top Lieutenant, a active CIA Informant, and a active FBI Informant all at the same time, Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed's phone number. - Case No.C9729972

Attacks on September 11, 2001 happened on September 11 (9/11) for hijacking trainer, Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed. He knew details that only the trainer would know.

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY OFFICE

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY SHERIFF

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS

SANTA CLARA COUNTY SHERIFF OFFICE - SHERIFF OF SANTA CLARA CALIFORNIA

U.S. Government informant Ali Mohamed’s trail of terror includes:

(A) Scouting terrorist targets in East Africa for Bin Laden, including the US embassy in Nairobi, Kenya which was struck by an al-Qaeda truck bomb in 1998.

(B) Training Terrorist cell member to executed the first attack on the World Trade Centre in 1993.

(C) Helping to establish some of the first al-Qaeda terror cells in the United States, including on the West Coast.

(D) Training al-Qaeda operatives on how to hijack passenger planes, including how to smuggle weapons through airport security.

(E) Compiling a 180-page al-Qaeda terrorist training manual.

(F) Training 9/11 hijackers.

On December 14, 1998 with the full knowledge of Mary J. Greenwood a Santa Clara County California Deputy Public Defender Supervisor then, and now the Santa Clara County California Public Defender in a Santa Clara County California Court inside a Judge's chamber during a Marsden Motion Hearing, Deputy Santa Clara County Public Defender's Kipp Davis and Susannah Shamos falsified evidence of a PageMart Inc. phone records to Honorable Judge Thomas William Cain.

PageMart Inc. phone records show from what phone line, date and time was a call made to my phone number. The PageMart Inc. records show that Usama Bin Laden's top lieutenant Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed was contacting my phone number from his phone line. My phone number back then with PageMart Inc. was a toll free 800 number. Any call made to any toll free 800 number including mine has a record of what phone line number, date and time the call was made to my phone number. Most people if not all assume that there is no way to trace your call if you call a toll free 800 number, and thats exactly what these terrorists thought and assumed.

Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed's phone number, Muslim Community Association of the San Francisco Bay Area phone number's, Granada Islamic School phone number's, Complaining witness phone number's (Work and Residential), residential numbers of Board and or Staff Members of the Muslim Community Association of the San Francisco Bay Area and Granada Islamic School all show up on the PageMart Inc. Records during, before and after of the terrorists, FBI Informants, and CIA Informants conspired allegations [C9729972] against me a whistle blower.

In 1997 I went to the FBI in San Jose, California and told the FBI on record with cameras around me that Mujahedin-e-Khalq and Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan terrorist agents are recruiting and raising money inside the Muslim Community Association of the San Francisco Bay Area, Granada Islamic School, and Masjid An-Noor. Little did I know at that time that the terrorist recruiters were FBI and CIA informants as well.

SANTA CLARA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS

SANTA CLARA COUNTY SHERIFF

SANTA CLARA COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY

SANTA CLARA COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDER

SANTA CLARA COUNTY FIRE
INTENTIONAL INJUSTICE

11/24/2006 4:33 PM


Anonymous said...
Santa Clara County Public Defender's Office

Santa Clara County District Attorney's Office

Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office

Santa Clara County Board of Supervisor's

Santa Clara Police Department

Santa Clara Fire Department

Santa Clara County Council

Santa Clara County FBI Office

Mary gave George Kennedy a 911" Greenwood.

Will Mary Greenwood and/or George Kennedy ever tell their grandchildren that grandma and grandpa have 9/11 blood on their hands?

12/06/2006 5:01 PM


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