Friday, October 21, 2005

Tom Delay - Guilty until proven innocent?

I just did a trial where, during jury selection, I had some of the most right wing reactionary possible jurors expressing themselves. Basically, this was what they had to say: "If you are charged with a crime, it means you are probably guilty, because the DA would never charge someone who didn't do it, so even without any evidence, I would find the defendant guilty." "If you assert your right to remain silent, you do so because you are guilty." "Being charged with a crime is evidence of guilt." "Being in a gang means that you are guilty of anything that gang does, even if you have no part in it."

You get the idea, these people were so out there, they made Torquemada (Spanish inquisitor, for those who don't know, or never saw History of the World Part I) look reasonable by comparison.

So, it got me to thinking, do any of those right wingers believe that Tom Delay must be guilty? I'm sure they don't, but he is an indicted felon. A grand jury of disinterested citizens has found probable cause that he committed a crime, even after being presented with any exculpatory evidence (I'm sure right wingers will now loudly protest that a grand jury could indict a ham sandwich, which I don't dispute, but hey, am I going to be the looney liberal to suggest that the system is weighted against criminal defendants? No, I'll leave that to the right wingers right now).

I wish that I had thought to ask these potential jurors this question.

I did get a nice couple of lines in, though. You see, during investigations into police misconduct, or any time there is an officer involved shooting, and Internal Affairs wants to question the officers, they have to read them their rights first (never mind that they're not in custody). The officers are then given COMPLETE IMMUNITY on what they say, so that it cannot be used against them in any way in a criminal matter, so that they can investigate the potential misconduct. This means, practically speaking, that the police can rarely be charged with crimes after they've given these "compelled statements." How many other jobs do you have where you can keep your job and assert your 5th Amendment right to remain silent in the face of potential prosecution? None that I know of. So, if all criminal defendants who don't testify, or assert their 5th amendment rights, are guilty, does this mean that all cops who assert their rights and then have to give compelled testimony are also guilty of the underlying crime they're refusing to speak of?

I asked this of those obstinate jurors, and you could see them crumbling behind the walls of congnitive dissonance that they've hidden behind. You could almost hear them muttering to themselves "Must...watch...Fox...News...NOW!!!"

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'm having *cognitive dissonance* too. Because I know when Dick Cheney, Scooter Libby, and Karl Rove get indicted, the indictment for the first time in history will be evidence of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Anonymous said...

On December 11, 2006 For the first time U.S. Government Backed Israel publicly admitted its possession of nuclear weapons. Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert confessed that his country possessed of nuclear weapons.

In an interview with the German N24 SAT 1 TV channel, Israel Zionist Terrorist Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert questioned whether it was possible to compare Iran’s attempt to have nuclear weapons with the possession of nuclear powers by the United States, France, Israel and Russia.

U.S. Backed Israeli Zionist Terrorist Infrastructure Minister Binyamin Ben Eliezer, in reference to Ehud Olmert's nuclear confession, said: “I recommend those who want to talk about this issue remain silent for God and the national security’s sake.”

Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed was arrested on September 11, 1998.

United States Government says the arrest of Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed was made on September 10, 1998. USHOSTAGE.com says United States Government lies.

On December 14, 1998 during a Marsden Motion Hearing in a Judge's chamber, just a month after I refused to be a FBI informant, United States Government Employees in Santa Clara County, California falsified evidence of PageMart Inc. phone records in a criminal case that contained a active Usama Bin Laden's Top Lieutenant, a active CIA Informant, and a active FBI Informant all at the same time, Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed's phone number. - Case No.C9729972

Attacks on September 11, 2001 happened on September 11 (9/11) for hijacking trainer, Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed. He knew details that only the trainer would know.

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY OFFICE

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY SHERIFF

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS

SANTA CLARA COUNTY SHERIFF OFFICE - SHERIFF OF SANTA CLARA CALIFORNIA

U.S. Government informant Ali Mohamed’s trail of terror includes:

(A) Scouting terrorist targets in East Africa for Bin Laden, including the US embassy in Nairobi, Kenya which was struck by an al-Qaeda truck bomb in 1998.

(B) Training Terrorist cell member to executed the first attack on the World Trade Centre in 1993.

(C) Helping to establish some of the first al-Qaeda terror cells in the United States, including on the West Coast.

(D) Training al-Qaeda operatives on how to hijack passenger planes, including how to smuggle weapons through airport security.

(E) Compiling a 180-page al-Qaeda terrorist training manual.

(F) Training 9/11 hijackers.

On December 14, 1998 with the full knowledge of Mary J. Greenwood a Santa Clara County California Deputy Public Defender Supervisor then, and now the Santa Clara County California Public Defender in a Santa Clara County California Court inside a Judge's chamber during a Marsden Motion Hearing, Deputy Santa Clara County Public Defender's Kipp Davis and Susannah Shamos falsified evidence of a PageMart Inc. phone records to Honorable Judge Thomas William Cain.

PageMart Inc. phone records show from what phone line, date and time was a call made to my phone number. The PageMart Inc. records show that Usama Bin Laden's top lieutenant Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed was contacting my phone number from his phone line. My phone number back then with PageMart Inc. was a toll free 800 number. Any call made to any toll free 800 number including mine has a record of what phone line number, date and time the call was made to my phone number. Most people if not all assume that there is no way to trace your call if you call a toll free 800 number, and thats exactly what these terrorists thought and assumed.

Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed's phone number, Muslim Community Association of the San Francisco Bay Area phone number's, Granada Islamic School phone number's, Complaining witness phone number's (Work and Residential), residential numbers of Board and or Staff Members of the Muslim Community Association of the San Francisco Bay Area and Granada Islamic School all show up on the PageMart Inc. Records during, before and after of the terrorists, FBI Informants, and CIA Informants conspired allegations [C9729972] against me a whistle blower.

In 1997 I went to the FBI in San Jose, California and told the FBI on record with cameras around me that Mujahedin-e-Khalq and Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan terrorist agents are recruiting and raising money inside the Muslim Community Association of the San Francisco Bay Area, Granada Islamic School, and Masjid An-Noor. Little did I know at that time that the terrorist recruiters were FBI and CIA informants as well.

SANTA CLARA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS

SANTA CLARA COUNTY SHERIFF

SANTA CLARA COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY

SANTA CLARA COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDER

SANTA CLARA COUNTY FIRE
INTENTIONAL INJUSTICE

11/24/2006 4:33 PM


Anonymous said...
Santa Clara County Public Defender's Office

Santa Clara County District Attorney's Office

Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office

Santa Clara County Board of Supervisor's

Santa Clara Police Department

Santa Clara Fire Department

Santa Clara County Council

Santa Clara County FBI Office

Mary gave George Kennedy a 911" Greenwood.

Will Mary Greenwood and/or George Kennedy ever tell their grandchildren that grandma and grandpa have 9/11 blood on their hands?

12/06/2006 5:01 PM


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Anonymous said...

On December 11, 2006 For the first time U.S. Government Backed Israel publicly admitted its possession of nuclear weapons. Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert confessed that his country possessed of nuclear weapons.

In an interview with the German N24 SAT 1 TV channel, Israel Zionist Terrorist Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert questioned whether it was possible to compare Iran’s attempt to have nuclear weapons with the possession of nuclear powers by the United States, France, Israel and Russia.

U.S. Backed Israeli Zionist Terrorist Infrastructure Minister Binyamin Ben Eliezer, in reference to Ehud Olmert's nuclear confession, said: “I recommend those who want to talk about this issue remain silent for God and the national security’s sake.”

Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed was arrested on September 11, 1998.

United States Government says the arrest of Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed was made on September 10, 1998. USHOSTAGE.com says United States Government lies.

On December 14, 1998 during a Marsden Motion Hearing in a Judge's chamber, just a month after I refused to be a FBI informant, United States Government Employees in Santa Clara County, California falsified evidence of PageMart Inc. phone records in a criminal case that contained a active Usama Bin Laden's Top Lieutenant, a active CIA Informant, and a active FBI Informant all at the same time, Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed's phone number. - Case No.C9729972

Attacks on September 11, 2001 happened on September 11 (9/11) for hijacking trainer, Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed. He knew details that only the trainer would know.

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY OFFICE

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY SHERIFF

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS

SANTA CLARA COUNTY SHERIFF OFFICE - SHERIFF OF SANTA CLARA CALIFORNIA

U.S. Government informant Ali Mohamed’s trail of terror includes:

(A) Scouting terrorist targets in East Africa for Bin Laden, including the US embassy in Nairobi, Kenya which was struck by an al-Qaeda truck bomb in 1998.

(B) Training Terrorist cell member to executed the first attack on the World Trade Centre in 1993.

(C) Helping to establish some of the first al-Qaeda terror cells in the United States, including on the West Coast.

(D) Training al-Qaeda operatives on how to hijack passenger planes, including how to smuggle weapons through airport security.

(E) Compiling a 180-page al-Qaeda terrorist training manual.

(F) Training 9/11 hijackers.

On December 14, 1998 with the full knowledge of Mary J. Greenwood a Santa Clara County California Deputy Public Defender Supervisor then, and now the Santa Clara County California Public Defender in a Santa Clara County California Court inside a Judge's chamber during a Marsden Motion Hearing, Deputy Santa Clara County Public Defender's Kipp Davis and Susannah Shamos falsified evidence of a PageMart Inc. phone records to Honorable Judge Thomas William Cain.

PageMart Inc. phone records show from what phone line, date and time was a call made to my phone number. The PageMart Inc. records show that Usama Bin Laden's top lieutenant Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed was contacting my phone number from his phone line. My phone number back then with PageMart Inc. was a toll free 800 number. Any call made to any toll free 800 number including mine has a record of what phone line number, date and time the call was made to my phone number. Most people if not all assume that there is no way to trace your call if you call a toll free 800 number, and thats exactly what these terrorists thought and assumed.

Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed's phone number, Muslim Community Association of the San Francisco Bay Area phone number's, Granada Islamic School phone number's, Complaining witness phone number's (Work and Residential), residential numbers of Board and or Staff Members of the Muslim Community Association of the San Francisco Bay Area and Granada Islamic School all show up on the PageMart Inc. Records during, before and after of the terrorists, FBI Informants, and CIA Informants conspired allegations [C9729972] against me a whistle blower.

In 1997 I went to the FBI in San Jose, California and told the FBI on record with cameras around me that Mujahedin-e-Khalq and Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan terrorist agents are recruiting and raising money inside the Muslim Community Association of the San Francisco Bay Area, Granada Islamic School, and Masjid An-Noor. Little did I know at that time that the terrorist recruiters were FBI and CIA informants as well.

SANTA CLARA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS

SANTA CLARA COUNTY SHERIFF

SANTA CLARA COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY

SANTA CLARA COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDER

SANTA CLARA COUNTY FIRE
INTENTIONAL INJUSTICE

11/24/2006 4:33 PM


Anonymous said...
Santa Clara County Public Defender's Office

Santa Clara County District Attorney's Office

Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office

Santa Clara County Board of Supervisor's

Santa Clara Police Department

Santa Clara Fire Department

Santa Clara County Council

Santa Clara County FBI Office

Mary gave George Kennedy a 911" Greenwood.

Will Mary Greenwood and/or George Kennedy ever tell their grandchildren that grandma and grandpa have 9/11 blood on their hands?

12/06/2006 5:01 PM


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Anonymous said...

On December 11, 2006 For the first time U.S. Government Backed Israel publicly admitted its possession of nuclear weapons. Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert confessed that his country possessed of nuclear weapons.

In an interview with the German N24 SAT 1 TV channel, Israel Zionist Terrorist Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert questioned whether it was possible to compare Iran’s attempt to have nuclear weapons with the possession of nuclear powers by the United States, France, Israel and Russia.

U.S. Backed Israeli Zionist Terrorist Infrastructure Minister Binyamin Ben Eliezer, in reference to Ehud Olmert's nuclear confession, said: “I recommend those who want to talk about this issue remain silent for God and the national security’s sake.”

Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed was arrested on September 11, 1998.

United States Government says the arrest of Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed was made on September 10, 1998. USHOSTAGE.com says United States Government lies.

On December 14, 1998 during a Marsden Motion Hearing in a Judge's chamber, just a month after I refused to be a FBI informant, United States Government Employees in Santa Clara County, California falsified evidence of PageMart Inc. phone records in a criminal case that contained a active Usama Bin Laden's Top Lieutenant, a active CIA Informant, and a active FBI Informant all at the same time, Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed's phone number. - Case No.C9729972

Attacks on September 11, 2001 happened on September 11 (9/11) for hijacking trainer, Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed. He knew details that only the trainer would know.

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY OFFICE

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY SHERIFF

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT

MEMO TO: SANTA CLARA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS

SANTA CLARA COUNTY SHERIFF OFFICE - SHERIFF OF SANTA CLARA CALIFORNIA

U.S. Government informant Ali Mohamed’s trail of terror includes:

(A) Scouting terrorist targets in East Africa for Bin Laden, including the US embassy in Nairobi, Kenya which was struck by an al-Qaeda truck bomb in 1998.

(B) Training Terrorist cell member to executed the first attack on the World Trade Centre in 1993.

(C) Helping to establish some of the first al-Qaeda terror cells in the United States, including on the West Coast.

(D) Training al-Qaeda operatives on how to hijack passenger planes, including how to smuggle weapons through airport security.

(E) Compiling a 180-page al-Qaeda terrorist training manual.

(F) Training 9/11 hijackers.

On December 14, 1998 with the full knowledge of Mary J. Greenwood a Santa Clara County California Deputy Public Defender Supervisor then, and now the Santa Clara County California Public Defender in a Santa Clara County California Court inside a Judge's chamber during a Marsden Motion Hearing, Deputy Santa Clara County Public Defender's Kipp Davis and Susannah Shamos falsified evidence of a PageMart Inc. phone records to Honorable Judge Thomas William Cain.

PageMart Inc. phone records show from what phone line, date and time was a call made to my phone number. The PageMart Inc. records show that Usama Bin Laden's top lieutenant Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed was contacting my phone number from his phone line. My phone number back then with PageMart Inc. was a toll free 800 number. Any call made to any toll free 800 number including mine has a record of what phone line number, date and time the call was made to my phone number. Most people if not all assume that there is no way to trace your call if you call a toll free 800 number, and thats exactly what these terrorists thought and assumed.

Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed's phone number, Muslim Community Association of the San Francisco Bay Area phone number's, Granada Islamic School phone number's, Complaining witness phone number's (Work and Residential), residential numbers of Board and or Staff Members of the Muslim Community Association of the San Francisco Bay Area and Granada Islamic School all show up on the PageMart Inc. Records during, before and after of the terrorists, FBI Informants, and CIA Informants conspired allegations [C9729972] against me a whistle blower.

In 1997 I went to the FBI in San Jose, California and told the FBI on record with cameras around me that Mujahedin-e-Khalq and Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan terrorist agents are recruiting and raising money inside the Muslim Community Association of the San Francisco Bay Area, Granada Islamic School, and Masjid An-Noor. Little did I know at that time that the terrorist recruiters were FBI and CIA informants as well.

SANTA CLARA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS

SANTA CLARA COUNTY SHERIFF

SANTA CLARA COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY

SANTA CLARA COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDER

SANTA CLARA COUNTY FIRE
INTENTIONAL INJUSTICE

11/24/2006 4:33 PM


Anonymous said...
Santa Clara County Public Defender's Office

Santa Clara County District Attorney's Office

Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office

Santa Clara County Board of Supervisor's

Santa Clara Police Department

Santa Clara Fire Department

Santa Clara County Council

Santa Clara County FBI Office

Mary gave George Kennedy a 911" Greenwood.

Will Mary Greenwood and/or George Kennedy ever tell their grandchildren that grandma and grandpa have 9/11 blood on their hands?

12/06/2006 5:01 PM


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